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Hey Gang...
So I'm going to check out a Vespa today
The guy has what he thinks is a 1955 Vespa.
His uncle bought it new in what he thought was 55.
The uncle gave it to this guys dad in the 60's.
The guy got it from his dad in the 80's.
At the time he was a teenager and had big plans of restoring it... nothing happened. He just rode it for the Summer.
So it's been sitting since in his barn/garage
He has a title and says that everything is there... just needs restoring.
He wants $250... it might be a little rough.

Questions...
This is probably an Allstate huh?

I'll post some pictures today if I get it.
I couldn't sleep last night.. the suspense is killing me!

Robert
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sounds like it's probably an allstate, if his memory is correct.

restoring allstates is tricky business. They tend to be money traps, as parts for handlebar bikes can be pretty scarce. You can dump thousands of dollars into them, only to be worth 1/2 to 2/3s of your investment.

if it is a handlebar bike, make sure you really want to do it before you start the restoration. If there isn't any major rust cancer, i'd just rebuild the motor and ride it as is.
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JSharpPhoto wrote:
sounds like it's probably an allstate, if his memory is correct.

restoring allstates is tricky business. They tend to be money traps, as parts for handlebar bikes can be pretty scarce. You can dump thousands of dollars into them, only to be worth 1/2 to 2/3s of your investment.

if it is a handlebar bike, make sure you really want to do it before you start the restoration. If there isn't any major rust cancer, i'd just rebuild the motor and ride it as is.
Gotcha... I'm not really looking for a $$ restore... honestly, I'm getting burned out on constantly working on scooters/mopeds and not riding.
But.. I may offer him $200 for everything and see what happens.

Thanks!
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It can be either an Allstate or an early handlebar (VL1, VN1) or a GS 150 . Can be a lot of things, but for $250 I wouldn't hesitate getting it. If the restore is going to be too expensive, pass it along and make some money for your other scooters.
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The more complete it is, the better. Like JSharp said, parts for those are hard to find and expensive.

That being said, I'd pay $200 for one of those in a heartbeat.
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Here it is...
Got it for $200.
I think it's a 1956.
Everything is there including original engine,cowls,seat,rack,rims, light and stuff.

VIN on body is VL3T
VIN on engine is VL3M

What's it worth as it sits? I'm not interested in restore..

Thanks!
R

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Why can't I find bargains like this in the UK
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Why can't I find bargains like this in the UK
Because you can find parts in the UK Laughing emoticon
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Today I finally LOL'd with my mouth, not just the keyboard, at something posted here. See above, thanks m_t.

Plus got some painting done on VNB. Still much to do...
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200.00
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What! You paid $200 and didn't get wheels? ......Yuk., YUk!
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I did get the rims with no tires..
It appears that everything is there.. nuts and bolts are in a jar for the reassembly.
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Did you buy this with the intention of flipping it?

That being said, I'd say in the condition its in, it is not worth a ton.
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dr.ona wrote:
I did get the rims with no tires..
It appears that everything is there.. nuts and bolts are in a jar for the reassembly.
Hi,
That's a nice score!
Happy Trails!
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Thanks!
Not really 100% sure what I want to do yet...
Right now I have 13 scooters/mopeds in a single car garage... all are running and in great condition with the exception of this one that I just bought. I have bought scooters and flipped them... but I mostly like to work on them for myself.
Perhaps I'll trade for something... we'll see.

R
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AKP wrote:
Why can't I find bargains like this in the UK
Because all our barns have pretty much been robbed now Crying or Very sad emoticon Laughing emoticon or converted into trendy houses, but they do turn up occasionally, generally end up on ebay by either the naive owner or a dealer who's bagged it and knows its worth £££s. I see them on ebay, and you might just be in the right place, right time to bag one if you're lucky.... Also on ebay are intact imported 'restorables' bought in for the UK market from Europe, India etc, but you won't get much change from £1000 and you need to factor in full restore costs. In some cases the DIY math doesn't stack up and you're better looking for one pre-restored.

Another option is buying a wreck on ebay that someone's had to restore and just never got around to it - I see ones that people have held onto for 20-30 and then finally realise they might not get it done after all!
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dr.ona wrote:
Here it is...
Got it for $200.
I think it's a 1956.
Everything is there including original engine,cowls,seat,rack,rims, light and stuff.

VIN on body is VL3T
VIN on engine is VL3M

What's it worth as it sits? I'm not interested in restore..

Thanks!
R
I will offer you $225. This offer is final.
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carmonaville wrote:
dr.ona wrote:
Here it is...
Got it for $200.
I think it's a 1956.
Everything is there including original engine,cowls,seat,rack,rims, light and stuff.

VIN on body is VL3T
VIN on engine is VL3M

What's it worth as it sits? I'm not interested in restore..

Thanks!
R
I will offer you $225. This offer is final.
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