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Gotta admit. Got a bit of a mancrush on this guy.

Anyone else enjoy watching his shows?
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I did until I found out he actually slept in hotels.
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I did until I found out he actually slept in hotels.
He did stay in a couple, yea, although no where near as bad as Ray Mears!

Still, I like him for what he's done, his journey etc, and for the stupid stuff he gets up to.
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I did until I found out he actually slept in hotels.
And eating raw deer meat. And insects. And other stuff. The fact that people get caught up in the fact that he sleeps in hotels is pretty asinine.
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I did until I found out he actually slept in hotels.
And eating raw deer meat. And insects. And other stuff. The fact that people get caught up in the fact that he sleeps in hotels is pretty asinine.
Agreed. As ex-military, I have a lot of respect because this guy is the real deal - met a lot of special forces guys just like this. Escape to the Legion is a better hint of how hardcore this guy is.
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I much prefer Les Stroud (Survivorman). For one thing, he cooks his food (usually). Also, he is alone and does his own camera work and everything.
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Gotta love him.

He does a lot for the youth in the UK, chief of the Scouts too I believe. A good role model for kids though I think, sure he eat's gross things, but he's had an incredible life and been through a huge amount of struggle and come out of it stronger than most.
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I much prefer Les Stroud (Survivorman). For one thing, he cooks his food (usually). Also, he is alone and does his own camera work and everything.
Les also is a fairly "average" guy and shows skills of how to survive in situations that would actually happen. I've yet to wake up attached to a parachute in the middle of Siberia and needed to survive like on Man vs Wild. However it is conceivable I could be the lone survivor of a tragic plane crash and awake inside a wrecked plane crashed in a forest like on Survivorman.

I was never a big fan of either show however. Evidence has shown that the highly trained, and prepared individuals are actually at greater risk of succumbing in emergency situations than the ill-equipped, and unprepared.
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I much prefer Les Stroud (Survivorman). For one thing, he cooks his food (usually). Also, he is alone and does his own camera work and everything.
Me too. I first show I saw was the one where he "survived" in an old plane wreck somewhere in northern Canada. At first he tied his arm down as if it was broken to reflect something that might really happen in a survivable plane wreck but by the second day he abandoned that idea and just survived. Great show.

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I much prefer Les Stroud (Survivorman). For one thing, he cooks his food (usually). Also, he is alone and does his own camera work and everything.
Yup. My preference too.

He even gets pissed off at himself when things don't work out.
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I much prefer Les Stroud (Survivorman). For one thing, he cooks his food (usually). Also, he is alone and does his own camera work and everything.
Yup. My preference too.

He even gets pissed off at himself when things don't work out.
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I don't care if he stays in hotels, but he should say so. He makes camp, pretends to go to sleep, and as soon as the camera is off he heads for a cozy bed. It's dishonest, and it's not asinine to point that out.
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I don't care if he stays in hotels, but he should say so. He makes camp, pretends to go to sleep, and as soon as the camera is off he heads for a cozy bed. It's dishonest, and it's not asinine to point that out.
You know the cast of Lost did the same thing?
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I don't care if he stays in hotels, but he should say so. He makes camp, pretends to go to sleep, and as soon as the camera is off he heads for a cozy bed. It's dishonest, and it's not asinine to point that out.
You know the cast of Lost did the same thing?
You watch too much TV.
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You watch too much TV.
Au contraire! I watch very little TV. One reason I watch very little TV is that over the years I've learned a valuable lesson:

Everything you see on TV is a fiction. Every program, every story, every tidbit has been modified to cater to a passive audience of hypnotized zombies.

TV is entertainment (at best) Even the news. (Especially the news). Your mistake is confusing it with fact.
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You watch too much TV.
Au contraire! I watch very little TV. One reason I watch very little TV is that over the years I've learned a valuable lesson:

Everything you see on TV is a fiction. Every program, every story, every tidbit has been modified to cater to a passive audience of hypnotized zombies.

TV is entertainment (at best) Even the news. (Especially the news). Your mistake is confusing it with fact.
Please don't tell me what I do or don't do.
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You watch too much TV.
Au contraire! I watch very little TV. One reason I watch very little TV is that over the years I've learned a valuable lesson:

Everything you see on TV is a fiction. Every program, every story, every tidbit has been modified to cater to a passive audience of hypnotized zombies.

TV is entertainment (at best) Even the news. (Especially the news). Your mistake is confusing it with fact.
Please don't tell me what I do or don't do.
But wouldn't "You watch too much TV" fall into that category too?
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Either way, Bear is ace. He's British, a proper Englishman, an Ex-Serviceman, a role model for thousands of young men and women and an all round entertainer.

On his firing from Discovery: https://twitter.com/#!/BearGrylls/status/179945991913480192

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I much prefer Les Stroud (Survivorman). For one thing, he cooks his food (usually). Also, he is alone and does his own camera work and everything.
I agree with Danny. Although he has a safety crew some miles away Stroud is on his own for the most part and his actions are less staged.
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I much prefer Les Stroud (Survivorman). For one thing, he cooks his food (usually). Also, he is alone and does his own camera work and everything.
I agree with Danny. Although he has a safety crew some miles away Stroud is on his own for the most part and his actions are less staged.
It's nice to know, when you're alone out there, sometimes things don't work out well regardless of training or preparation. His shows can be sort of cautionary tale.

Trying to start a fire when everything was damp, and even the fire starters I bought along weren't enough. Frustrating.

Finding myself deep in unfamiliar woods and much closer to sunset (I really know better than this) than I thought, hoping to find my way out before full darkness fell. This time preparation did help. I had taken some compass bearings on the way in...Just enough to get me back to the road in time.
But I sweated it a bit, for sure.
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TV is entertainment (at best) Even the news. (Especially the news). Your mistake is confusing it with fact.
Have you ever watched BBC news vs. your local country's news? There is a whole world of difference out there. In fact, there is a whole world out there.

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Have you ever watched BBC news vs. your local country's news? There is a whole world of difference out there.
In fact I have. And I'm well aware of the differences.
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Yeah. I'm one of the minority telling my fellow Americans the same thing, so don't get too far ahead of yourself there.

That said, BBC news will suffer the same fate as American news. It's only a matter of time.
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BBC news will suffer the same fate as American news. It's only a matter of time.
The difference is, of course, that the BBC is publicly funded, and they don't need high ratings to attract sponsors like almost all other news programs. Therefore, they don't need to present news as entertainment, with smiling personalities (with leg lights) showing the latest traffic disaster. I think you get the picture.

I'm not getting ahead of myself, and I appreciate that you live in a very large democratic country where a lot of people can't be bothered with the rest of the world (Who is the Prime Minister of Canada anyway?). I'm with you all the way when it comes to getting people to look outside their own borders.

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I like the international version of the BBC. When i was in the Gulf war it pissed me off that they were reporting the wrong stuff. We couldn't even get it right and they were embedded.
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BBC news will suffer the same fate as American news. It's only a matter of time.
The difference is, of course, that the BBC is publicly funded, and they don't need high ratings to attract sponsors like almost all other news programs. Therefore, they don't need to present news as entertainment, with smiling personalities (with leg lights) showing the latest traffic disaster. I think you get the picture.

I'm not getting ahead of myself, and I appreciate that you live in a very large democratic country where a lot of people can't be bothered with the rest of the world (Who is the Prime Minister of Canada anyway?). I'm with you all the way when it comes to getting people to look outside their own borders.

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The difference is, of course, that the BBC is publicly funded, and they don't need high ratings to attract sponsors like almost all other news programs. Therefore, they don't need to present news as entertainment, with smiling personalities (with leg lights) showing the latest traffic disaster. I think you get the picture.
I do appreciate that difference. That said, there has been a steady slide in the quality of journalism worldwide over the last fifty or so years, and I don't think the BBC is immune to that. Resistant, perhaps. But not immune.
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I do hope the BBC doesnt go the same way as american news, although , as Jess said, it does seem inevitable. They already use better looking women than they did when I was younger. (maybe I am old and desperate and all women are now looking good to me?).

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Here's a good example of the fact that the BBC isn't immune:

Tide detergent thefts 'funds US drug habits'
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I guess, like everyone else, the BBC still needs to fill a time slot with "news" whether there is any or not.

Personally, I like hearing about some movie star's silliness on the news. It means that there were no terrorist attacks that day.

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I guess, like everyone else, the BBC still needs to fill a time slot with "news" whether there is any or not.
And that right there has been, and will be, the demise of journalism worldwide.

Also, as this article appeared on the BBC's web page, and web pages being devoid of temporal constraints, the need to fill a time slot does not adequately explain this particular failure.
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Loving this discussion on wilderness survival. I've watched both these shows and you can always learn something useful from them.

I am also a big fan of "Survivor" in the US but cringe everytime a new season starts. How many days does it take to get a fire going and stay going given basic tools and supplies? Any Boy Scout worth his merit badges should be able to get a good fire going in less than an hour! Myself I know a few not requiring matches. Just give me a good sharp knife and shoelaces and I'll get a fire going real quick.

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You watch too much TV.
Au contraire! I watch very little TV. One reason I watch very little TV is that over the years I've learned a valuable lesson:

Everything you see on TV is a fiction. Every program, every story, every tidbit has been modified to cater to a passive audience of hypnotized zombies.

TV is entertainment (at best) Even the news. (Especially the news). Your mistake is confusing it with fact.
+1. Especially the "news".
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