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In the middle of me tidying up my 50s, and with just the "to kit or not to kit" decision to make, this scoot has become available.

Like mine, it's a '90's reissue. It's a 1999 primavera et3. One owner from new. It has a 135 malossi kit, polini exhaust and bitubo front shock. It's pretty well original mint.

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I don't know how desirable it is in "scooterdome", but I very much like to have that under my ass right now.. Minty fresh
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that would do me too....buy it
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The desirable element has been removed with the addition of the kit, pipe, and shock and ?

It is 'almost' exactly like taking an all original rally200 and adding a 210, aftermarket noise maker, candy cane shock, and calling it original and thinking its worth more.

It's not.

It's not a primmy with a kit. It's a factory sport bike that has been modified.

I am probably alone on this, I don't care.

(by the way, that et3 paint scheme(if original) is next to impossible to find, anywhere. I happen to know of one and my buddy has it. It was just in a museum for display)
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Awesome bike. I'm in the process of building one with a similar paint scheme. Not a fan of the bar ends though, they extend way too far off the legshield.
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Not a 99'. More than likely a 90'.
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they did a rerun for the Japanese market..
a few turned up in the UK..
in the late 90s...
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I'm also not sure why someone would put a 135 kit in this 125, even with my very recent knowledge. Especially if they were the first owner from new.

Luckily I'm not so pureist that it matters too much at the end of the day if I buy it or not. But yes, I would have prefered it to be all stock, just for my own enjoyment.

I'm certain the paint is original.

If I take what I paid for mine, add in the tidy up expenses so far, then kiting mine with an 85cc would pretty much take it up to what this guy is asking for the primavera......
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It's a '99 for sure. Like mine, a reissue to the Japanese market only. This was bought into the country new by the vespa importer and sold to the current owner in '99.
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Why can't you understand why they would put a 135 kit? I've got a 135 on my smallframe.

And also, I can definitely understand why they put an aftermarket shock on the fork, as the shocks on PV forks are crap. Helps with brake dive.
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they did a rerun for the Japanese market..
a few turned up in the UK..
in the late 90s...
I thought they were all white w/rally stripes
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just get and buy it..before someone else does
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shocks on PV forks are crap.
Not if you simply add a new stock one. Most people thought it would be a great idea to replace an old blown stock shock with an aftermarket performance doohicky.

Instead of just trying a regular new shock.
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gnasher wrote:
they did a rerun for the Japanese market..
a few turned up in the UK..
in the late 90s...
I thought they were all white w/rally stripes
there was an article in "scootering" about them..

one red and one blue....a 50 and a 125

both with the stripes..

don't know how many were made in that batch??

the 125 had the ET3 / SS90 type exhaust..I'm pretty sure..
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the 125 had the ET3 / SS90 type exhaust..I'm pretty sure..
It was the stock exhaust for all runs of et3's.

Interesting on the red, but come to think of it I recall a blue Japanese issue with bar ends.
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Why can't you understand why they would put a 135 kit? .
I guess I thought the guy bought it from new, and I got the idea he did the kit pretty soon after. Is a 135 Malossi THAT much better than a near new 125 et3?
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Night and day. A stock ET3 cylinder is only capable of about 7hp, whereas tuning with a Malossi can bump you up substantially.

Jimmy, I'm trading my stock shock out for a SIP Adjustable.
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Pretty sweet !
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TravisNJ wrote:
Why can't you understand why they would put a 135 kit? .
I guess I thought the guy bought it from new, and I got the idea he did the kit pretty soon after. Is a 135 Malossi THAT much better than a near new 125 et3?
It all depends on who set it up. It's not so much better or worse as it is different. I believe that that bike, in that condition, will fetch more coin in original condition than that bike with mods.

I would offer him less as it is not original. Use the mods as a bargening tool. Everybody knows that just because you add a kit to a bike doesn't equal more money on a sale.

As for the shock, I installed a new stock shock and it was awesome.

I'm not racing around the track though.
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Buy it. Sell yours. Definitely.

Edit: So yours is for sale!
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Edit: So yours is for sale!
Yeah. thought I'd see if I got any bites. I'd prefer to own only one of them. Actually I'd prefer to own both, but can afford to only own one.

I'm struggling to get past the fact mine will only just keep up with traffic on the flat and just not keep up with traffic on any kind of hill....riding in the gutter while 4x4's breeze past you is a powerful incentive......
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I like it. The kit is a no brainer. Put the stock ET3 pipe on and get the drt spring on a stock shock and your good as your uncle bob is to go. or something like that. don't care for bar end signals myself.
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Bought It
Yeah, I have bought it. It's a couple of hours away so won't have it for at least a week when I can get down there to pick it up.

Took the 50s for a good ride today, and it just doesn't have the legs unfortunately. May end up with both, who knows....

Couple more pics. The rear rack is custom made, as is the spare cover

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Looks great Rod, I'm sure you won't be disappointed. Was someone else bidding? I watched it till about an hour to go, I should probably get a life instead.
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I like it a lot!
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Was someone else bidding? I watched it till about an hour to go.
No, just me. I had spoken to the guy so knew what he wanted for it. From looking at scooters the last few weeks, seems things don't sell too quickly...

Looking forward to the extra power that's for sure. Wonder what sort of speed and power the 135 Kit will provide.....
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I'm frikkin jealous as all get out. That is one of the mostest prettiest nicest bikes I've seem in some time.

Although I'd like to see it stock, there is nothing wrong with that kit and pipe. Maybe later if you don't like the noise maker you can put the banana back on(they look great on that bike).

I'm not sure, but if the gearing is stock, you'll see mid 60's for sure on the speedo.

Great find...........you suck. : )
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lucky u mate, its a sweet bike.. congratz and dont forget to smile while u ride it
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I find it very desirable.
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VERY desirable to me. I like.
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That's a beauty! Just got myself a v100 small frame on Friday past..small frames are great fun and that looks to be real nice 1 !
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