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Hi, I was wondering if I could get some input on a couple of scooters that I have my eye on acquiring. The first bike is an original 1962 GS 160 MK 1 with approximately 6000 miles - it is in excellent condition and is ridden on a regular basis. The second scooter is a 1963 restored GS 160 with about 6 miles on it. Both bikes have never been in Asia - only the USA or Italy. The restoration on the 1963 Vespa was performed by a well known mechanic in California. I know that the 1962 original is the more valuable of the two but I live in the middle of nowhere and the nearest Vespa dealership is 350 plus miles away. I can't speak to their qualifications regarding vintage scooters...

Any input or thoughts that you could give me would be greatly appreciated.
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Silly Man?...

sorry I don't know the proper info on those scoots (very nice, wish had either)
but I like your name..

One of our associates will be with you shortly... please hold.
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Things to Consider before Buying a Vintage Vespa

And post pics /links (if possible).
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Not knowing the price of either one, or the condition, or the color, I'm not sure what you're asking. The MK1 has that little glovebox in the back, the MK2 does not. Both are great machines, neither are good for a daily rider, due to their value, you should treasure and display them as befits them. Are they each quite expensive, like at least $4000?

Neither of those GS160s is a "better model" as far as parts, reliability, or performance goes. The MK1 is worth more as they're rarer and the only Vespa with the cool little glovebox in back. With pictures or prices we would have more to comment on, like resto quality, or which one is the better deal.

What's the question?
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Unfortunately, I am having trouble posting pictures. The 1962 is white with a grey seat I believe. The 1963 is the same color with possible a black seat. As stated previously the 1963 has about 6 miles on it and the 1962 original around 6000 miles. They are both in immaculate shape - emphasis on immaculate. My intent was to ride them around our small Montana town whenever possible and not as a showpiece... My wife wants to get me a scooter as old as I am for my 50th birthday - hence the 1962. I am thinking the 1963 because since it is fully restored it is more likely to be a little more reliable????? Each bike is upwards of $ 7,000.
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Re: Newbie needs help with purchase - 1962 GS 160
silly man wrote:
Unfortunately, I am having trouble posting pictures. The 1962 is white with a grey seat I believe. The 1963 is the same color with possible a black seat. As stated previously the 1963 has about 6 miles on it and the 1962 original around 6000 miles. They are both in immaculate shape - emphasis on immaculate. My intent was to ride them around our small Montana town whenever possible and not as a showpiece... My wife wants to get me a scooter as old as I am for my 50th birthday - hence the 1962. I am thinking the 1963 because since it is fully restored it is more likely to be a little more reliable????? Each bike is upwards of $ 7,000.
For that money you should be looking for one at a reputable shop like Green tree or even Bar Itlia..Let peeps around here look at your pix.Ive seen way to many Scammers that would love that cake $$. Learn how to post pics its simple. and it could save you $7.IMO,You have the dough just wait until you find a gem they are out there if you look and ask around.Call Gene at Scooters Originali he has a lot of world wide connections..
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They are good scooters, but 1) are so rare and valuable you feel bad wearing them out and getting the inevitable scratch on them, and 2) some parts are VERY hard and expensive to find.

I appreciate the sentiment of getting a scooter your age, but if you want a regular rider you might consider other models from that era. To be clear, this is not because other models from the era are more reliable. It's for practical reasons (parts availability, pricing, and being able to come to terms with "using the scooter up").

My 2 cents. They would be the most sporty ride from that era though.
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I'm always inclined to trust an original bike that is ridden regularly, over someone else's "restored" bike. You have to wonder why the bike only has six miles. I'm assuming that is mileage since the restoration. How long has it been sitting? Who knows how neglected the bike was and how poorly it was maintained before the "restoration". Depending on the "restorer" and the customer, corners may have been cut on the mechanical side, thinking that it was going to be a living-room bike forever.

As we've said before, whenever we see a "restored" bike for sale, we see it as an expensive project bike that we are going to have to re-restore. There is really just too much junk out there. We would always rather pick up a barn find to restore, as it will cost less and will most likely have more usable correct parts on it.

In your situation, there is nothing better in that price range (as far as GS160s go) than a nice original, unrestored, well maintained, ridden bike.

Our restored GS160s are a bit pricier than that, but If you want a concourse 1969 GTr or 1959 VBA, give us a call.
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Grover wrote:
. Both are great machines, neither are good for a daily rider, due to their value, you should treasure and display them as befits them.
My daily rider is a GS160 MK1. Its a great daily rider, and handles much better than any P200. I ride mine through the streets of L.A.

I would think a GS would be great for riding around a small town in Montana.
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If you've got that kind of cake to spend, def look at GreenTree, you could have had the sweetest Rally... they no doubt have other killers, or can build you a specimen that will be the "talk of the town" Nice gift.
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Thank you for your thoughtful replies. I have sent a few of you PM's for further clarification.

Thanks again.
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