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Piaggio BV 350 Scooter Announced for US - But Without ABS and Traction Control

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Piaggio announced it will import its new Beverly 350 Sport Touring scooter to the U.S., though it may be missing its two most noteworthy features.

The 2012 Piaggio BV 350 (as it will be called in North America) is equipped with a new frame and a next-generation Piaggio scooter engine. Not mentioned however, but available in European models, is ABS and anti-slip regulation (i.e. traction control), both firsts for a production scooter. Some might argue whether those features are necessary for a 350cc scooter; Piaggio Group Americas doesn't seem to think so, at least not at the BV350′s $5499 price level.
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No big surprise. I don't know of any Vespa/Piaggio models sold elsewhere with ABS that have made it here with ABS.
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Booo!
Why no ABS and traction control? Also, with that two stage seat, how short do you have to be to be comfortable? At six-two, I can't imagine having enough room.
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And what is the actual displacement of this engine? R
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330 cc, I believe, with a claimed horsepower of 33 bhp.
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When I get my own scooter company... I will call evey thing by or within 5 cc of it's actuall displacement. And Yes 33 horse power is pretty good! R
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When I get my own scooter company... I will call evey thing by or within 5 cc of it's actuall displacement.
Oh....? Do tell! 8)
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Kayemtee wrote:
Midnight Rider wrote:
Booo!
Why no ABS and traction control? Also, with that two stage seat, how short do you have to be to be comfortable? At six-two, I can't imagine having enough room.
The cost to certify that system for the US compared to the amount of sales of the BV does not warrant bringing it to the States.
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Kayemtee wrote:
Midnight Rider wrote:
Booo!
Why no ABS and traction control? Also, with that two stage seat, how short do you have to be to be comfortable? At six-two, I can't imagine having enough room.
The cost to certify that system for the US compared to the amount of sales of the BV does not warrant bringing it to the States.
Perhaps, But by not including them, You can bet they'll have less sales,
Everyone will be waiting for the model that they think will come to the U.S.
If it doesn't ever come to the U.S., Then why introduce it at all?
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I still want one
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I still want one
^^^what he said^^^
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ABS and TC are not very common on Scoots here in the US.

Having it would be a competitive advantage in one sense, but makes it harder to sell the higher price tag to a populace that sees scooters as "toys".
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When I get my own scooter company... I will call evey thing by or within 5 cc of it's actuall displacement. And Yes 33 horse power is pretty good! R
Ducati did that for a while, with the 851, 888, 916, 996, 998, 999, 748, 749, 848, 696, 796..
I think they gave up on the 1098, 750, 800, 1000, 1100, 1200 models..
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I can't wait till I can see this model. It could be perfect for me (and probably many others).

90% of my riding is local but occasionally I do a 3 or 4 day "tour". I did one with the GTS 250 and was very pleasantly surprised how well it did and how comfortable it was. A 350 could be light enough to bang around town with and big enough to feel great on the interstate.

'Course, a red GTS300 photo still makes my heart skip a beat so, who knows?
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AlexBv200 wrote:
Kayemtee wrote:
Midnight Rider wrote:
Booo!
Why no ABS and traction control? Also, with that two stage seat, how short do you have to be to be comfortable? At six-two, I can't imagine having enough room.
The cost to certify that system for the US compared to the amount of sales of the BV does not warrant bringing it to the States.
Perhaps, But by not including them, You can bet they'll have less sales,
Everyone will be waiting for the model that they think will come to the U.S.
If it doesn't ever come to the U.S., Then why introduce it at all?
I want one of these scoots as soon as they come in a color combo I like. If it had the abs/traction control I would NOT want one. In my opinion- it would add to the weight and complexity of the scooter-something to possibly break. I know all the arguments for these two items but I prefer them they way they are coming.

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BVBob wrote:
Big Foot wrote:
AlexBv200 wrote:
Kayemtee wrote:
Midnight Rider wrote:
Booo!
Why no ABS and traction control? Also, with that two stage seat, how short do you have to be to be comfortable? At six-two, I can't imagine having enough room.
The cost to certify that system for the US compared to the amount of sales of the BV does not warrant bringing it to the States.
Perhaps, But by not including them, You can bet they'll have less sales,
Everyone will be waiting for the model that they think will come to the U.S.
If it doesn't ever come to the U.S., Then why introduce it at all?
I want one of these scoots as soon as they come in a color combo I like. If it had the abs/traction control I would NOT want one. In my opinion- it would add to the weight and complexity of the scooter-something to possibly break. I know all the arguments for these two items but I prefer them they way they are coming.

Bob
^^^what he said^^^

Besides, the Vespas haven't been available with ABS in the US and I don't believe thats impacted the sales of them.

IMO it will add some techno-complexity that most of us here in the US market apparently don't want enough to pay the extra for. Myself included.
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I will not buy a new PTW without ABS. Don't need the traction control though.

Was looking at the mana but afaik it too lacks ABS.
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I will not buy a new PTW without ABS. Don't need the traction control though.

Was looking at the mana but afaik it too lacks ABS.
Latest Manas have ABS.
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Me Too...
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tommylittlescooter wrote:
I still want one
^^^what he said^^^
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I will not buy a new PTW without ABS. Don't need the traction control though.

Was looking at the mana but afaik it too lacks ABS.
Like Desmolicious said, my 2010 Mana GT comes equiped with ABS.
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Latest Manas have ABS.
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Midnight Rider wrote:
I will not buy a new PTW without ABS. Don't need the traction control though.

Was looking at the mana but afaik it too lacks ABS.
Like Desmolicious said, my 2010 Mana GT comes equiped with ABS.
Aprilla really need to update their website! Or I my search skills!

Thanks!


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