Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:55 am

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Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:55 am linkquote
Dooglas wrote:
Rank Bajin wrote:
As it has yet to be published what the actual purpose of these bolts really is, can we really say "They won't be strong enough'.......???
Piaggio's published tech note seems to make it pretty clear what the intended use is of the grease bolts they are distributing.

http://www.wotmeworry.org.uk/manuals/Piaggio%20MP3/Random/3%20wheel%20grease%20tool.pdf
I happen to come across a video last night on Youtube.com showing a MP3 Front without the ABS, and its movements. I actually thought about those bolts last night wondering if they could stay in or not. Looking at the movements, and assuming the stress points, I don't think I would risk it.
Put them in, pump the grease, and take them out and re-torque.
At least that is what my plans are.
Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:15 am

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Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:15 am linkquote
Do not ride with them installed....reinstall original bolts for riding.
Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:19 am

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Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:19 am linkquote
By ABS I assume you mean plastic fairing, not the braking system. If you do a search regarding grease bolts some members came up with this a while back. In those threads
The issue of drilling and tapping the bolt was addressed along with the affect on the hardness of the bolt. Please view them to lessen the re-hashing of the same discussion
Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:05 pm

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Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:05 pm linkquote
AF1 Racing wrote:
Do not ride with them installed....reinstall original bolts for riding.
Mine have been in for a year. Might be hard to get out.
Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:34 pm

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Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:34 pm linkquote
I just finished doing this job on mine. I counted roughly 25 pumps of grease on each area and I still didn't notice any leakage around the rings like the bulletin said I would see. Does this mean that mine are bone dry? I was just wondering what others experienced. If I need to, I will tear it back apart and get another tube of grease.
Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:15 am

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Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:15 am linkquote
FentonFred wrote:
I just finished doing this job on mine. I counted roughly 25 pumps of grease on each area and I still didn't notice any leakage around the rings like the bulletin said I would see. Does this mean that mine are bone dry? I was just wondering what others experienced. If I need to, I will tear it back apart and get another tube of grease.
In case you were watching this thread--I have two 500s and did the front end lube on each. I just pumped until I saw the start of a bit of grease squeeze out from the back of the fitting...but I easily used WAY more than 25 pumps to do it. At first I thought I must be doing something wrong because it seemed like forever and I didn't see anything like you, but eventually it does start coming out if you just keep at it.
Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:11 am

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Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:11 am linkquote
FentonFred wrote:
I just finished doing this job on mine. I counted roughly 25 pumps of grease on each area and I still didn't notice any leakage around the rings like the bulletin said I would see. Does this mean that mine are bone dry? I was just wondering what others experienced. If I need to, I will tear it back apart and get another tube of grease.
I used three mini grease tubes, and my hand sure got tired. I pumped until grease came out of the bottom, never did see any come out the top.
Scoot sure rides better though. How's your ride?
Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:44 am

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Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:44 am linkquote
gsheff wrote:
FentonFred wrote:
I just finished doing this job on mine. I counted roughly 25 pumps of grease on each area and I still didn't notice any leakage around the rings like the bulletin said I would see. Does this mean that mine are bone dry? I was just wondering what others experienced. If I need to, I will tear it back apart and get another tube of grease.
I used three mini grease tubes, and my hand sure got tired. I pumped until grease came out of the bottom, never did see any come out the top.
Scoot sure rides better though. How's your ride?
Ok, I'll have to take it apart again and buy another tube of grease - thanks for letting me know. I did notice when I took it out for a test drive, that it's turning much smoother. Combine that with the new rear tire I put on, and I'm flying around the curves like a madman...
Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:04 am

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Fri Jul 27, 2012 9:04 am linkquote
I did this Grease-Service yesterday, and it only took about 30 minutes; and 3 mini-tubes of grease (and ~50 pumps of the grease gun, to get flow-out)

Question: The service bulletin only says to do the procedure on the Forward 4 each bolts... Does that mean that the added-grease flows the the Rear-facing 4 bearings as well??? Or, if not, then must I do the same procedure again, but from the back side?
Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 am

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Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:01 am linkquote
Grease type for mp3's ?
What type of grease is recomended for greasing the bolts that are removed. I need to do mine. Thanks
Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:29 am

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Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:29 am linkquote
[quote="ALEXB"]I did this Grease-Service yesterday, and it only took about 30 minutes; and 3 mini-tubes of grease (and ~50 pumps of the grease gun, to get flow-out)

Question: The service bulletin only says to do the procedure on the Forward 4 each bolts... Does that mean that the added-grease flows the the Rear-facing 4 bearings as well??? Or, if not, then must I do the same procedure again, but from the back side?[/quote
You're good. The grease flows around.
Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:35 am

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Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:35 am linkquote
Re: Grease type for mp3's ?
DavidHerring wrote:
What type of grease is recomended for greasing the bolts that are removed. I need to do mine. Thanks
You don't actually grease the bolts. You remove the bolts, and force grease into the cavity surrounding the bearings. I used a waterproof marine(boat trailer bearings) grease.
Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:52 pm

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Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:52 pm linkquote
Bearing grease
Thanks Gsceff,
Just not as literate with the keystroke as the speech process. I'll get some .
Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:36 pm

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:36 pm linkquote
Re: Grease type for mp3's ?
gsheff wrote:
DavidHerring wrote:
What type of grease is recomended for greasing the bolts that are removed. I need to do mine. Thanks
You don't actually grease the bolts. You remove the bolts, and force grease into the cavity surrounding the bearings. I used a waterproof marine(boat trailer bearings) grease.
Pardon my dumb, but wouldn't any wheel bearing grease be waterproof?
Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:50 pm

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Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:50 pm linkquote
Re: Grease type for mp3's ?
YaYaDave wrote:
gsheff wrote:
DavidHerring wrote:
What type of grease is recomended for greasing the bolts that are removed. I need to do mine. Thanks
You don't actually grease the bolts. You remove the bolts, and force grease into the cavity surrounding the bearings. I used a waterproof marine(boat trailer bearings) grease.
Pardon my dumb, but wouldn't any wheel bearing grease be waterproof?
some are more than others. marine grade is better because the axels that go into water on the trailers.
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Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:55 pm

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Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:55 pm linkquote
I finally had time to grease my bearings today. I guess that Murphy's law does apply here. One tube of 14 oz. lithium grease does three bearings nicely ;( I had to run to the store and this time I purchased marine grease, which is basically what I wanted to use in the first place.

It's a snap to do on the 500. I took off both side covers even though I did not need to. Well I did notice a major difference between lithium and marine grease. Marine grease is super light. My greasgun ran right through the tube. I had a hard time getting it into the bearing cavity.

I guess I will see how things go with the next few days of riding to and from work. I took it out for a short ten mile ride, and no extra grease squeezed out, but time will tell.
Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:48 am

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Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:48 am linkquote
Finished greasing and installing 18g Dr Pulleys as well
Didn't have to remove any plastic while performing grease bolt. Took a TON of grease though. Had to feel for the grease on the top bolts, but after getting my hands dirty, finally felt the excess grease slip out.

Bike definitely runs smoother with the Dr Pulleys!

I'm having mixed feelings about the grease though. Bike definitely turns easier, but almost too loose for me. I can definitely feel a lot more of the road (especially with bumps on a turn), and I'm not sure if I like it or not.

I'm sure I'll get used to it, but I wonder if I'm the only one that has noticed a lot more sensitivity in the bike handling.

*off topic - has anyone figured out how to make the pet carrier waterproof? Anytime I have to leave the bike out in a little rain, my spare passenger helmet gets soaked inside.
Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:50 am

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Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:50 am linkquote
ijoe wrote:
I'm having mixed feelings about the grease though. Bike definitely turns easier, but almost too loose for me. I can definitely feel a lot more of the road (especially with bumps on a turn), and I'm not sure if I like it or not.

I'm sure I'll get used to it, but I wonder if I'm the only one that has noticed a lot more sensitivity in the bike handling.
This is proof the factory grease was gone and you needed to grease the bearings. You will get longer life with the bearings properly greased. You'll get used to it.
Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:12 pm

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Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:12 pm linkquote
The first time you drive it will feel far too bumpy. It took about a day to get fully integrated. Now I wonder why I didn't do it sooner.
Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:31 am

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Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:31 am linkquote
mvtroiano wrote:
I finally had time to grease my bearings today. I guess that Murphy's law does apply here. One tube of 14 oz. lithium grease does three bearings nicely ;( I had to run to the store and this time I purchased marine grease, which is basically what I wanted to use in the first place
If you used Lithium, you need to get that out of your bearings, it's not designed for heavy loads on bearings at all.
Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:18 am

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Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:18 am linkquote
Can I use standard bearing grease for the column bearings?
Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:30 am

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Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:30 am linkquote
Yes, they're not exactly under much load, and certainly aren't required to rotate at speed.
Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:48 am

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Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:48 am linkquote
jimc wrote:
Yes, they're not exactly under much load, and certainly aren't required to rotate at speed.
So regular lithium grease would be okay then? It is impossible to find that over priced AGIP stuff around here.
Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:42 am

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Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:42 am linkquote
Depends on which lithium grease I would think, there are many different formulations. I use Fuchs Silkolene Pro-RG2 - but any high-cling water-repellant grease (and not all lithium greases are) should do.
Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:09 pm

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Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:09 pm linkquote
mvtroiano wrote:
jimc wrote:
Yes, they're not exactly under much load, and certainly aren't required to rotate at speed.
So regular lithium grease would be okay then? It is impossible to find that over priced AGIP stuff around here.
Go to Auto Zone or where ever and just get Marine Axle Bearing Grease.
If they don't have it, go to any boat dealer or marine supply store.
Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:56 pm

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Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:56 pm linkquote
WEB-Tech wrote:
mvtroiano wrote:
jimc wrote:
Yes, they're not exactly under much load, and certainly aren't required to rotate at speed.
So regular lithium grease would be okay then? It is impossible to find that over priced AGIP stuff around here.
Go to Auto Zone or where ever and just get Marine Axle Bearing Grease.
If they don't have it, go to any boat dealer or marine supply store.
exactly.
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Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:31 pm

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Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:31 pm linkquote
Remove the grease bolt or Not?
I just got 4 Screws with greasers (P/N 020943Y) . Piaggio's instructions say to grease and then remove and reinstall original bolts(Would have just got one?) Many on this site state they have left them in? What to do ? If the bolts are of good quality, they should still be strong enough? I am going to use Red Line CV-2 Grease. I have used it for 20 years with good results.
Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:17 pm

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Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:17 pm linkquote
Re: Remove the grease bolt or Not?
MOTO3 wrote:
I just got 4 Screws with greasers (P/N 020943Y) . Piaggio's instructions say to grease and then remove and reinstall original bolts(Would have just got one?) Many on this site state they have left them in? What to do ? If the bolts are of good quality, they should still be strong enough? I am going to use Red Line CV-2 Grease. I have used it for 20 years with good results.
I don't know of anyone leaving in the PIAGGIO bolts. don't know the grade of them if they are suitable enough to leave in.

The only ones I know of left in were made by mjm50cal and those are of very good quality.
Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:28 pm

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Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:28 pm linkquote
I put mine in at the beginning when mjm50cal released them. Greased up the bearings and haven't taken them out til this week.

After all the conversation about the probability of failure, I removed them for inspection. I didn't see anything indicating failure imminently. So, I put them back in at the recommended torque. To be certain I did not have them X-rayed nor were they destructively tested. It seems that it has been two riding seasons and this will be the third.

Think I'll just leave them there.
Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:39 am

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Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:39 am linkquote
Re: Piaggio release steering 3 Wheeler grease bolt tool...
Cheekythomas.....thank you. Haven't been on this website for a long time. I've had my MP3 500 for a few years now. Other than the 2 plungers leaking on the hydraulics that failed and caused tilting, it has never given me problems. Easy fix.

These machines are also very electrically sensitive which I have stayed on top of. Still have the same battery since late 09 and it is still functioning well after my care and reads full amps. I just called the Brandon, Florida shop and talked to them about this Technical Bulletin. They are on top of it and will handle this along with a new belt change and other stuff. I've "never had the weaving/wobble effect" while driving it, but I figured I would get his done now.

My MP3 500 continues to be very reliable but I realized a few years ago that all they need is care and attention and they will deliver. And so did my BMW, Honda, Yamaha, Harley, Puch, Peugeot, Solex, Suzuki, and so on...... I trust this bike. I am originally from Belgium and had them all in my lifetime.

Thank you again....Tom
Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:42 pm

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Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:42 pm linkquote
Does anybody know if the 020943Y grease bolts are available in the uk please?
Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:11 pm

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Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:11 pm linkquote
Some of the posts about these bolts confuse me. Some people have installed sets of four and ridden for years with them. Other people say the bolts should only be used as a tool and replaced with the stock bolt as they have been weakened and are not up to the job of dealing with the forces involved in operation. A few years ago someone posted on one of these threads that he just took out his bolts one at a time and pressed the grease gun nozzle into the bolt hole and filled them up and replaced the bolts.

If you are willing to take the chance and ride on them buying four and replacing the stock bolts makes sense; but if you're not going to leave them in doesn't this bolt just make it take more time and effort?
Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:08 pm

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Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:08 pm linkquote
Soundman wrote:
Does anybody know if the 020943Y grease bolts are available in the uk please?
go to a dealer and order 1. they get them thru piaggio parts.
Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:47 pm

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Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:47 pm linkquote
Grease Gun
A modification to increment the live of the bearings sistem (Page 2)


Go to this topic July 2010 where I posted how, after removing each bolt separately, I injected the grease using a flexible grease gun hose after first unscrewing the standard fitting at the end.



Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:03 am

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Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:03 am linkquote
Steering grease
I just had Barney's of Tampa do my steering with the grease tool that they had. Took about 1 1/2 hrs. and the cost was just about $100 to do. Well worth for me as I didn't want to fiddle with the everything that needed to be taken off. They have 3 locations in the Tampa Bay area and all 3 are authorized Piaggio dealers that service any kind of Piaggio. They are great and this location I went to had very knowledgeable mechanics. Great service and care. You should have seen the Service Manager run my MP3 500 all around to make sure everything was just perfect.
Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:20 am

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Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:20 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
Soundman wrote:
Does anybody know if the 020943Y grease bolts are available in the uk please?
go to a dealer and order 1. they get them thru piaggio parts.
I ordered the bolt through my local dealer.
Arrived two days later and only £3.52!
Job now done as instructed on this website.
No plastics removed and all done in under 1 hour.

Thanks everyone for your help.
Long live my bearings!

Soundman
Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:32 am

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Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:32 am linkquote
Soundman wrote:
old as dirt wrote:
Soundman wrote:
Does anybody know if the 020943Y grease bolts are available in the uk please?
go to a dealer and order 1. they get them thru piaggio parts.
I ordered the bolt through my local dealer.
Arrived two days later and only £3.52!
Job now done as instructed on this website.
No plastics removed and all done in under 1 hour.

Thanks everyone for your help.
Long live my bearings!

Soundman
Wow, I will have to tell my dealer that you didn't remove any of the plastics. But in all fairness I had him check out torque and anything else that needed maintenance on. He really gave it once over for everything under the plastics. 1 1/2 hrs. for $100 that they did is still not bad. And I have peace of mind that a trained Piaggio mechanic did all this. I have someone to go back to if anything is wrong.
Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:37 am

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Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21943
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
Neutrino MP3 492.7 AK, 2013 Moto Guzzi Norge
Joined: 29 Mar 2008
Posts: 21943
Location: Harriman, Tennessee, Tn
Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:37 am linkquote
Re: Steering grease
TJC wrote:
I just had Barney's of Tampa do my steering with the grease tool that they had. Took about 1 1/2 hrs. and the cost was just about $100 to do. Well worth for me as I didn't want to fiddle with the everything that needed to be taken off. They have 3 locations in the Tampa Bay area and all 3 are authorized Piaggio dealers that service any kind of Piaggio. They are great and this location I went to had very knowledgeable mechanics. Great service and care. You should have seen the Service Manager run my MP3 500 all around to make sure everything was just perfect.
guess I need to up my prices. I only charge 10% of what they did and no plastics to remove either.
Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:46 am

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Piaggio MP3 500
Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 276
Location: Tampa Bay, Florida
 
Banned
Piaggio MP3 500
Joined: 27 Dec 2008
Posts: 276
Location: Tampa Bay, Florida
Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:46 am linkquote
Re: Steering grease
old as dirt wrote:
TJC wrote:
I just had Barney's of Tampa do my steering with the grease tool that they had. Took about 1 1/2 hrs. and the cost was just about $100 to do. Well worth for me as I didn't want to fiddle with the everything that needed to be taken off. They have 3 locations in the Tampa Bay area and all 3 are authorized Piaggio dealers that service any kind of Piaggio. They are great and this location I went to had very knowledgeable mechanics. Great service and care. You should have seen the Service Manager run my MP3 500 all around to make sure everything was just perfect.
guess I need to up my prices. I only charge 10% of what they did and no plastics to remove either.
I agree with you as long as you do what they did......... You are much more mechanically inclined that I. And I would suspect much more so than most of us. I just wished you lived in the Tampa Bay area as I would have asked you to do mine. I would trust what you do 100% with your knowledge and expertise. I am just a rider that loves my Piaggio that is just trying to give a plug to this great dealer. I change my oil my self but nothing else other than the routine stuff. My Piaggio runs and runs and runs without any issues. That is what I care about.
Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:23 pm

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MP3 500, Ducati ST4s, Honda Silver Wing
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 2646
Location: Nomad currently in Placerville, CA
 
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MP3 500, Ducati ST4s, Honda Silver Wing
Joined: 21 May 2008
Posts: 2646
Location: Nomad currently in Placerville, CA
Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:23 pm linkquote
Scooterwest did mine as part of the service work I had them do recently. I don't have the invoice in front of me right now so I can't tell you exactly what they charged; but if I remember correctly they lumped several small things together and charged me one hour for all of them. Seemed fair to me. They already had the plastics off for other things they were working on so I don't know if they normally do this with or without plastic.
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