Wed May 30, 2012 6:07 pm

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Wed May 30, 2012 6:07 pm linkquote
Hi all am new to site (joined in April)also first post. Have gotten allot of info. Off site thanks to you all. Just wanted to share how I mounted side cases in hopes of helping others that are interested in doing the same. Ordered the cheapest set of side case mounts I could find they are for a BMW F650GS (2000/2004) PL188-KL188
From Givi purchased off Ebay. Knowing I would be cutting them up anyway but to my surprise very little in fabricating had to be done. Here is a list of materials used.
2- 1" Two piece shaft collars drilled and tapped on one side to 1/4"-20
1-small piece of 1"X 1" x1/16" angle iron (only using two 1" pieces)
2- 10mm dia. X 5/8" long spacers drilled so 6mm bolt to pass thru.
1- piece of 1" X 1/8" flat iron (2' long)
2- 3/8-16 bolts 3/4" long, 2- 3/8" flat washers, 2- 3/8" acorn nuts & 2- 3/8" lock washers
2- 5/16-18 bolts 1/2" long, 2- 5/16" flat washers, 2- 5/16" nuts & 2- 5/16" lock washers
2- 1/4-20 bolts 1/2" long, 2- 1/4" flat washers, & 2- 1/4" lock washers
2- 6mmX 50mm bolts & 2- 6mm flat washers
Will reuse 2- 6mm bolts from body panel
Everything else came with side brackets.


side case mounts as they came






made brackets to fit cross bar to OME top case brackets


next found that long corner on mount crossed right over body panel bolt that is part of frame so removed bolt made a spacer , cut and flattened bracket, drilled hole and installed 6mmX50mm bolt with flat washer


next used 1" collar and angle iron to make top connection


used original body panel bolt at back of bracket to cross bar with spacer that came with side bracket .
just some of parts used note how drilled and tapped collar for angle iron attach point


how they look on scoot


how mounted to body panel


afew pictures after painting & installing both sides then adding GIVI E41 side cases













Wed May 30, 2012 6:25 pm

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Wed May 30, 2012 6:25 pm linkquote
Fantastic job and pictures!
Wed May 30, 2012 6:32 pm

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Wed May 30, 2012 6:32 pm linkquote
Thanks. Found site looking for side case mounts and have gained so much information thanks to everyone else for posting there ideas, problems and solutions !
Wed May 30, 2012 6:48 pm

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Wed May 30, 2012 6:48 pm linkquote
Nice job and pictorial! Many will take advantage of this, I am sure.
Wed May 30, 2012 6:49 pm

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Wed May 30, 2012 6:49 pm linkquote
STUPENDOUS first post. Please give a little more explanation of the spacers; did you drill out the existig hole in the tupperware and the spacer fits through, or is the body panel being squeezed between the nut underneath and the spacer on top of it?

I bet you could fit one or a pair of Rotopax gas cans in there and still have plenty of room to boot. Great job!
Wed May 30, 2012 6:50 pm

Molto Verboso
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Wed May 30, 2012 6:50 pm linkquote
That looks good. It's a much snugger fit to the sides than I've seen on previous attempts. Those side cases are HUGE!

I'd love to hear some longer term reports on how it holds up.
Wed May 30, 2012 6:57 pm

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Wed May 30, 2012 6:57 pm linkquote
Yes body panel is being squeezed between spacer and nut just like original
bolt was doing made spacer same diam. as bolt head. will give updated report later as just started riding with them on monday.
Thu May 31, 2012 5:39 am

Hooked
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Thu May 31, 2012 5:39 am linkquote
I am envious. Really phenomenal work. Inspiring, really. If I freed up the funds, I could see doing this as well. Thank you, from a less talented modder!
Thu May 31, 2012 5:53 am

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Thu May 31, 2012 5:53 am linkquote
Nice, very, very nice! Well done effort and pictorial! How is the ride with the extra wind resistance now?
Thu May 31, 2012 5:54 am

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Thu May 31, 2012 5:54 am linkquote
Awesome.
Love how the supports are vertical and parallel. Very clean and tucked in as much as you can go.
Thu May 31, 2012 6:15 am

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Thu May 31, 2012 6:15 am linkquote
Nice work, Minimag123, thanks for sharing.

Where did you source that 1" collar, and how is the bracket bolted to it? Does the collar have some kind of tab on it?
Thu May 31, 2012 6:31 am

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Thu May 31, 2012 6:31 am linkquote
I agree with Jeff. Great first post and very nice job on the install and the write up. Will come in handy if you come down to the gathering in September.
Thu May 31, 2012 6:49 am

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Thu May 31, 2012 6:49 am linkquote
Really a nice job. If you ever want to make this a kit to sell, you should have no problems having a few buyers here.

Cheers,
Tross
Thu May 31, 2012 9:54 am

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Thu May 31, 2012 9:54 am linkquote
It would be great if there was a setup like that for the 400/250's. Has anyone seen one or done that?
Thu May 31, 2012 11:12 am

Molto Verboso
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Thu May 31, 2012 11:12 am linkquote
Do they interfere with putting bike on the stand?
Thu May 31, 2012 4:18 pm

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Thu May 31, 2012 4:18 pm linkquote
1. As far as wind resistance I haven't noticed them at all. Will see what effect they have on gas milage?
2. The 1" collars are availible from Fastenal, Grainger ,Mcmaster carr & Enco.
3. I drilled and tapped collars to 1/4-20. Used small piece of 1' X 1" angle iron drilled on one side for 1/4" bolt and other side 5/16" bolt then anle iron goes from collar to bracket.
4. It is alittle more difficult to put scoot on stand but mainly because top bracket connection is where I would normally grab side rails to do it.
Also boxes can be taken off or reinstalled very easily. After testing I will only use them when running around with wife on weekends or traveling.
Thu May 31, 2012 4:35 pm

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Thu May 31, 2012 4:35 pm linkquote
A better view of collar to bracket connection



Thu May 31, 2012 5:04 pm

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Thu May 31, 2012 5:04 pm linkquote
I like your work, as it looks factory. One side note I haven't seen brought up is, this looks like it would do pretty well in a slow/no speed tip over to help protect the tupperware.

I wish there was more protection available for the scooter in the event that gravity takes over, and perhaps an exoskeleton of tubing and spacers may be feasible afterall.

Congrats on such a remarkable entry into the group. I only had jokes..

Steve
Thu May 31, 2012 9:42 pm

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Thu May 31, 2012 9:42 pm linkquote
Minimag123 wrote:
A better view of collar to bracket connection
Recommend replacing that nut with a nylock nut.
Thu May 31, 2012 10:50 pm

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Thu May 31, 2012 10:50 pm linkquote
thanks for posting this MOD, look forward to how it holds up after a few months of hard riding.

And gas mileage you had before and after the cases were added.

FM
Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:31 am

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Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:31 am linkquote
Wasn't enough room for nylock nut so used locktite to keep it tight but thanks for suggestion.
Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:24 am

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Fri Jun 01, 2012 6:24 am linkquote
Minimag123 wrote:
Wasn't enough room for nylock nut so used locktite to keep it tight but thanks for suggestion.
There is enough room if you put the bolt up from the bottom and have the nylock on top. You can cap it off with an acorn nut for a smooth finish. Great job either way.
Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:00 am

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Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:00 am linkquote
mjm50cal.you are 100% right. had not thought about putting bolt up through. I may do that wife would like cup holders on both side about that location. Im working on pillion foot rest now like you made for yours thanks alot.

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Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:04 pm

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Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:04 pm linkquote
Phillip..P. Smith wrote:
Do they interfere with putting bike on the stand?
Do they interfere with putting down the stand??
Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:59 pm

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Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:59 pm linkquote
Phillip..P. Smith wrote:
Phillip..P. Smith wrote:
Do they interfere with putting bike on the stand?
Do they interfere with putting down the stand??
It is alittle more difficult to put scoot on stand but mainly because top bracket connection is where I would normally grab side rails to do it.
Also boxes can be taken off or reinstalled very easily. After testing I will only use them when running around with wife on weekends or traveling.
Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:41 am

Molto Verboso
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 10:41 am linkquote
I instaled Firstgear Silver stream? bags to my 500 and I have to use put mine up pullingfro the rear!!
Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:50 pm

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Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:50 pm linkquote
My small cases will drop about 5 mpg, but low speeds I cannot vouche for. Would guess below 40 mph they are not as bad ? Gratz on the nice mod !
Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:15 pm

Molto Verboso
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Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:15 pm linkquote
Can you take a trip up to 100 miles with them on riding highways and see what your gas mileage is?

thx
Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:13 am

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Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:13 am linkquote
Very well done. Though I whiteline enough here in CA that side
cases like yours would put a end to that. I don't know if that's legal in PA.
Keep up the good work.
Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:36 pm

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Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:36 pm linkquote
FunkyMonkey wrote:
Can you take a trip up to 100 miles with them on riding highways and see what your gas mileage is?

thx
Will be taking a trip in July and I'll Pm you with results.
Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:30 pm

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Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:30 pm linkquote
First full tank of gas with side cases. A mix of driving back and forth to work, two up riding with wife with a mix of in town & highway. Speeds ranging between 25-60mph but vast majority between 45-55mph. Before cases was getting between 52-55mpg most being close to 55mpg. with cases I got 53mpg I know you cant tell from first tank but looking promising! Just finished second tank 6-9-2012 same driving conditions but all of tank two up riding with wife 53.3mpg.
6-11-2012 finished third tank with about 2/3rds of tank in 55-70 mph range all two up riding at 56mpg. so far not noticing any drawback to cases at all.6-17-2012 Final tank of fuel for testing 54.8 mpg will now only use cases when with wife or traveling.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:34 am

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Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:34 am linkquote
Over half a year now. How are those mounts working?
Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:11 am

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Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:11 am linkquote
nice job, The side bag mounts look great.

how did I miss this when it first got posted ?
Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:37 am

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Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:37 am linkquote
old as dirt wrote:
nice job, The side bag mounts look great.

how did I miss this when it first got posted ?
Minimag123 kinda slid in here, had his say, and hasn't been heard from since last August. I thought this was quite an addition to MP3 styling and mods.
Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:33 am

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Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:52 pm

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Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:52 pm linkquote
I still visit now and then sorry I havent posted for some. After half a years riding they have been by far the best mod. I have done to scoot wife loves them. they havent had any real effect on my gas milage but i dont do much highway riding. You can carry quite a load with them. I have done more mods to scoot borrowing a few ideas from the sight right now just looking for any chance to ride during winter months.
Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:55 pm

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Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:55 pm linkquote
Nice Job!

I wonder if these marine grade pipe clamps might work well for a job like this? And look very nice in polished stainless steel too!

25mm Sliding Clamp Over with Fork
To take End with Eye except the HD
Made to clamp around without the need to slide-on.
Polished 316 Stainless Tube Fitting

(Reference #4697810)

https://www.seascrew.com/browse.cfm?25MM-STAINLESS-TUBE-FITTINGS--MARINE-GRADE&l=0000000175
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Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:41 pm

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Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:41 pm linkquote
so is this all there is of the saddlebag bracket mounts?

I got some nice large saddlebags, which I need to fabricate some brackets. But some of these links have died.

How did that gas mileage work over time with the saddlebags?

FM
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Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:24 pm

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Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:24 pm linkquote
Minimag123 wrote:
Hi all am new to site
Me too !!!
What a great project and Awesome pictures WITHOUT "Photobucket" watermarks !!!
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